Nuggets Release Statement

[OneNole]

We are disappointed in the leagues current stance in removing 4 of our signed players. We have complied with all rules and regulations as set forth by the CBA, and by conducting such egregious actions, have harmed our organization by limiting us and keeping us below the league minimum 12 players.

Prior to submitting our offers, we reached out to an admin to clarify the leagues position and were informed that the only repercussions would be a warning and the extra players would be cut. Following this information, we submitted offers to 7 quality players. We never expected that 5 of the 7 (only losing out on Davis and Porzingis due to discrepancy in salary) would have agreed to become a Nugget. We realized we are not a bottom feeding organization like Orlando or the Clippers, but it is still humbling to know so many valued players admired our organization and culture we have instilled.

Brunson was never on our list to sign, but he came to us requesting an offer indicating that he would be forced to sign with New York which he was reluctant to do. Knowing what he provided our franchise these past 2 seasons we agreed, after indicating if we signed any of our other targets that he would be released.

Following the signing of the 5 players, we again reached out to the admin team of what the plan was knowing our goals of keeping 1 of the 2 PGs and 1 of the 2 big men. We were instructed that the first in the log book would be kept and following players would be released. After opening the log book published in the SIm 15 Results thread we noticed that Brunson was the last name entered, indicating to us that both Smiths and Brunson would be released.

We implore. No, we demand that the league keep their word and reversing their decision in releasing Brunson and bringing back Chiozza and Silva. We acknowledge the competitive advantage not reversing this decision provides select members of the admin/sim team but the integrity of the league is at stake if failure to follow through with how they instructed this would be handled.

If the league disagrees with how we handled our offseason, then we suggest them to make a rule preventing it moving forward. This is no different then the Oregon Ducks having 12 men on the field to run clock against Ohio State just 2 weeks ago. They took advantage of a loop hole, won a game, and following that game the NCAA made a rule change.

I trust that the league will do the right thing in allowing us to keep the first two players in the published CSL website log book (Chris Chiozza & Chris SIlva) because at the end of the day, its a less than 3 minute edit in the CSL database.

[Silogical]

I Believe Brunson would have been 1st in the log book. Bottom of the log is the 1st in the log.

Edit

You would also have 1.2m left for Jalen Smith. his salary mustve been more than 1.2m so thats why he was cut.

I am surprised you signed them to 2 year deals knowing most would be cut.

[KW]

There should really be a stronger penalty than just cuts, since this takes a lot of talent off the board for the rest of FA

But that's a future debate

[Silogical]

There should really be a stronger penalty than just cuts, since this takes a lot of talent off the board for the rest of FA

But that's a future debate

Yeah i wanted one of those players and I didnt know how the engine decides who to sign so i bid on only 2 players. I ended up losing out on every free agent that sim because of only putting in 2 offers unlike denvers 7

[Andrewu91]

So Brunson should be a Knick. I gotcha.

[OneNole]

I Believe Brunson would have been 1st in the log book. Bottom of the log is the 1st in the log.

Edit

You would also have 1.2m left for Jalen Smith. his salary mustve been more than 1.2m so thats why he was cut.

I am surprised you signed them to 2 year deals knowing most would be cut.

Cut was wrong wording. I was told the plaher would be removed from the team but the database doesn't allow for salary to be removed. So while I show cut salary, the salary does not stick. Similar to how okc shows so many 2nd round picks, but most of the picks are forfeits.

It would be my understanding when looking at the published log book that it would go top down. Nothing posted suggested otherwise. July 31st was published above followed by August 1st. You won't find any financial statements or itemized reports that work in an inverse way.

[Silogical]

I Believe Brunson would have been 1st in the log book. Bottom of the log is the 1st in the log.

Edit

You would also have 1.2m left for Jalen Smith. his salary mustve been more than 1.2m so thats why he was cut.

I am surprised you signed them to 2 year deals knowing most would be cut.

Cut was wrong wording. I was told the plaher would be removed from the team but the database doesn't allow for salary to be removed. So while I show cut salary, the salary does not stick. Similar to how okc shows so many 2nd round picks, but most of the picks are forfeits.

It would be my understanding when looking at the published log book that it would go top down. Nothing posted suggested otherwise. July 31st was published above followed by August 1st. You won't find any financial statements or itemized reports that work in an inverse way.

Bottom 1st, you can see the ordering with released players. They are released before they are renounced. Its the same as mchat, the bottom post was the 1st in the log.

I am dissapointed if the admins said the players could be removed with their salary also removed.

[KW]

There should really be a stronger penalty than just cuts, since this takes a lot of talent off the board for the rest of FA

But that's a future debate

Yeah i wanted one of those players and I didnt know how the engine decides who to sign so i bid on only 2 players. I ended up losing out on every free agent that sim because of only putting in 2 offers unlike denvers 7

Same but for different reasons. The game for whatever reason didn't allow me to receive 2nd rounder Amari Bailey in a trade from OKC so I'm forced to keep a roster spot open till the end of FAotherwise I lose the draft pick. So I couldn't afford to have the game sign my roster up to 15 players

[GreenBear]

I thoroughly enjoyed this press release lol

[Flaming Homer]

Denver reached out to me what would happen if they sign player and exceed the HC with that.

The CBA declares that a player signed over the HC will be cut and a warning will take place. Additional the FA thread says:
1st time - Removal of bids/player even if they did sign

That leaves a lot of room for interpretation obviously, and it looks like Denver hired their own bunch of attorneys to check this loophole out some more.

Reading the log in game it looks like Brunson signed first (log shows days from old to new, bottom to top). He didn't exceed the HC. Everybody else signed after, exceeded the HC and was cut. Unfortunately this players will be not available for the last Sim, but they can be bid on at the start of the new season.

To prevent cases like that, we will place another rule in the big rule book to make sure it will not happen every off-season.

[Silogical]

The CBA states that the cut salary stays on the player for illegal signings with one exception

"There’s a special rule to that matter: should a new GM enter the league, he will not have to be responsible for illegal signings from previous GMs, which means he will not be charged with the cut salary from the illegal signings. "

so since these are two yr deals denver will have 5m+ cut salary next yr

[OneNole]

The CBA states that the cut salary stays on the player for illegal signings with one exception

"There’s a special rule to that matter: should a new GM enter the league, he will not have to be responsible for illegal signings from previous GMs, which means he will not be charged with the cut salary from the illegal signings. "

so since these are two yr deals denver will have 5m+ cut salary next yr

Cba clearly states that any illegal contract is voided. A voided contract gets removed in its entirety.

Admin team also didn't specify prior to signing of log book, could easily be misinterpreted after the fact.. if this was spelled out before hand, Brunson never would have been offered preventing the situation that has currently presented itself. Only rightful thing is to remove Brunson and add xhiozza and silva

[WillyJakkz]

Damn onenole... I'll come visit and bring you a phone so you can still GM the team

[Andrewu91]

The CBA states that the cut salary stays on the player for illegal signings with one exception

"There’s a special rule to that matter: should a new GM enter the league, he will not have to be responsible for illegal signings from previous GMs, which means he will not be charged with the cut salary from the illegal signings. "

so since these are two yr deals denver will have 5m+ cut salary next yr

Cba clearly states that any illegal contract is voided. A voided contract gets removed in its entirety.

Admin team also didn't specify prior to signing of log book, could easily be misinterpreted after the fact.. if this was spelled out before hand, Brunson never would have been offered preventing the situation that has currently presented itself. Only rightful thing is to remove Brunson and add xhiozza and silva

Only rightful thing is to put Brunson back on the team he would have signed with(Knicks) and remove all signings made by Denver that sim.

[hardenwithnod]

So weird that this game allows teams to offer multiple offers with the minimum, but not the max cap space slots lol.

[Jestor]

What it hinges is on what numerically counts as a breach.

4.13 Illegal Signings
If a team signs a Free Agent from another team and get over the hard cap with that signing, that contract will be voided.
Should any signing be ruled illegal due to the above reason or any other rule breaching, contract will also be voided and one of the penalties will be applied:
4.13.1 Free Agency Period – Penalty Level 1
Applied at the First Breach. Removal of bids / players (including voiding signed illegal contracts).
4.13.2 Free Agency Period – Penalty Level 2
Applied at the Second Breach. GM is suspended, becoming ineligible to participate during the next 3 Free Agency days (in-game count).
4.13.3 Free Agency Period – Penalty Level 3
Applied at the Third Breach. GM is suspended for the rest of the Free Agency Period. Team will also be punished by paying the entire contract voided out.

If it's only one breach because it all occurred in one sim, then it's only Penalty Level 1.

If it's multiple breaches because it's multiple players, then the penalty triggers go on the stack and resolve in LIFO order, in which case it's possible some contracts are paid out entirely and two not.

[GreenBear]

I live for these discussions in the CSL

[Stockton12]

simple rule change is whats needed

if your close to the hard cap ..u can only offer contracts that will keep u under it ..u cannot offer for mutlple players that might take u over..failure to do so will face harsh penaltys

[Ramcus]

punish the evildoer and adjust the wording in the CBA so this doesn't happen again

[Andrewu91]

punish the evildoer and adjust the wording in the CBA so this doesn't happen again

Is he really a evildoer, or by his statement, someone who put in offers and hoped 1-2 signed? I get how the Nuggets were best left with Myles and rebuilding, but Brett almost made the finals two seasons ago. They are out of assets unfortunately and I guess need a lot of depth to help that.